The state of corrections.

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In September, NCSL and the Public Safety Performance Project of the Pew Center on the States convened a group of state lawmakers to discuss sentencing and corrections policies. This discussion included the size of the problem states face, policies that have contributed to the burgeoning prison population, political considerations, new approaches and how the recession affects potential solutions.

State Legislatures: What's the current situation in your state with corrections populations and costs? How are corrections affected by the overall fiscal situation in your state, and vice versa?

Senator John Kissel (Connecticut): In my state of 3.3 million we have 19,618 inmates. There are six correctional facilities with some 8,000 inmates just in my district. In the last six months we've gone from no deficit to a $300 million deficit. So these are scary fiscal times.

Assemblywoman Sheila Leslie (Nevada): We're in fiscal crisis because two-thirds of our state budget revenues come from sales and gaming taxes, but when the national economy is in recession, not as many people come to Las Vegas. Dealing with Nevada's high incarceration rate definitely is becoming about the money. Nevada's prison population has grown 58 percent in the last 10 years and is projected to grow another 61 percent in the next 10 years.

Representative Roger Goodman (Washington): Washington has a corrections budget of about $1 billion a year. We have one of the lower incarceration rates, and a high supervision rate. We are a state without an income tax, so our budget goes up and down with the booms and the busts. Today we face a $3.2 billion deficit in a $36 billion budget. It's very distressing trying to figure out what to cut. It's not going to be education, particularly K-12. Some would also take corrections off the table.

Senator Stewart Greenleaf (Pennsylvania): In 1980 we had a few thousand people in our penitentiaries. Today we have nearly 48,000 inmates, a 450 percent increase. Over that same time Pennsylvania's population increased only 3.5 percent.

The corrections budget is now $1.6 billion and growing. It's almost as much as higher education while we are facing hundreds of millions of dollars in deficits. Between now and 2012 we're going to have to build penitentiaries at $200 million each, with another $50 million to operate them. And if we don't do anything else, we'll have to build a penitentiary every year at those costs for the foreseeable future.

Senator Lena Taylor (Wisconsin): We too have seen significant increases in incarceration, yet violence continues to increase in certain areas. We have a huge budget deficit and we're also concerned about a drop in federal Byrne Justice Assistance Grant money that we have used for programs that reduce the number of prisoners. In Milwaukee County, for example, a program the DAs are doing has diverted 300 felons, but I'm getting calls about needing money to keep it going.

Representative Terrance Carroll (Colorado): We continue to increase our corrections budget, and it has contributed to a budget mess for the state. With 4.5 million people in the state, we have 23,000 people incarcerated. Corrections takes up about 8 percent of our state general funds. When I was first elected six years ago, a financial downturn meant we had to take nearly $3 billion out of the state's $14 billion general fund budget. Yet we continue to increase our corrections budget. Almost 40 percent of our inmates are in private prisons because we can't afford to build more prisons.

Representative Linda Myers (Vermont): We, too, don't have enough beds in Vermont, so we send 561 inmates to out-of-state, for-profit facilities, many in Kentucky, some in Tennessee. In the past 10 years we've had an 80 percent increase in our prison population. In 1996 our corrections budget was $48 million. This year we are going to spend almost $130 million.

Representative Pat Colloton (Kansas): Four years ago, we were looking at spending $186 million building prisons and spending maybe $300 million more over 10 years to maintain prisoners in...