Drug decriminalization in Portugal.

• Author: Gillespie, Nick
• Position: Soundbite - Glenn Greenwald interview - Interview

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Glenn Greenwald is a civil rights attorney, a blogger for Salon, and the author of a new Cato Institute policy study called "Drug Decriminalization in Portugal: Lessons for Creating Fair and Successful Policies." The paper examines Portugal's experiment with decriminalizing possession of drugs for personal use, which began in 2001. Nick Gillespie, editor of reason.com and reason. tv, sat down with Greenwald in April.

Q: What is the difference between decriminalization and legalization?

A: In a decriminalized framework, the law continues to prohibit drug usage, but it's completely removed from the criminal sphere, so that if you violate that prohibition or do the activity that the law says you cannot do you're no longer committing a crime. You cannot be turned into a criminal by the state. Instead, it's deemed to be an administrative offense only, and you're put into an administrative proceeding rather than a criminal proceeding.

Q: What happened in Portugal?

A: The impetus behind decriminalization was not that there was some drive to have a libertarian ideology based on the idea that adults should be able to use whatever substances they want. Nor was it because there's some idyllic upper-middle-class setting. Portugal is a very poor country. It's not Luxembourg or Monaco or something like that.

In the 1990s they had a spiraling, out-of-control drug problem. Addiction was skyrocketing. Drug-related pathologies were increasing rapidly. They were taking this step out of desperation. They convened a council of apolitical policy experts and gave them the mandate to determine which optimal policy approach would enable them to best deal with these drug problems. The council convened and studied all the various options. Decriminalization was the answer to the question, "How can we best limit drug usage and drug addiction?" It was a policy designed to do that.

Q: One of the things you found is that decriminalization actually correlates with less drug use. A basic theory would say that if you lower the cost of doing drugs by making it less criminally...